Spark the Conversation: Sabrina Fendrick, Berkeley Patients Group

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Sabrina Fendrick is the Director of Government Affairs for Berkeley Patients Group, a licensed medical cannabis dispensary serving patients throughout the greater Berkeley area.

Prior to working at BPG, Sabrina spent seven years at the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) in Washington D.C. In 2010, she founded the NORML Women’s Alliance — the first nationwide women’s outreach organization in the cannabis space — and she was a founding advisor for Women Grow. She is a member of the Students for Sensible Drug Policy Advisory Council, sits on the Marijuana Majority Advisory Board, and is a member of the Council for Responsible Cannabis Policy’s National Packaging and Labeling Standards Committee.

In this episode of the Spark the Conversation podcast, Sabrina joins host Bianca Green for a discussion at the Emerald Cup about the state of the industry, the history of cannabis activism, her work to educate lawmakers about the realities of cannabis, and more.

Listen to the podcast (recorded live at the Emerald Cup) below, or continue scrolling down to read a full transcript of the interview.

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Bianca Green: Welcome to the Spark the Conversation podcast in partnership with I’m your host Bianca Green. Thanks for so much for tuning in today. I have the pleasure of sitting down in our Emerald Cup series with a dear friend and fellow drug war veteran, Sabrina Fendrick, who works at Berkeley Patient’s Group as the Director of Government Affairs. Prior to her work at BPG, she spent seven years at the Washington DC-based NORML, National Organization of the Reform of Marijuana Laws. In 2010, Sabrina founded NORML Women’s Alliance, which I think was a huge stepping stone to females coming out of the closet as consumers, advocates, and entrepreneurs. It really helped solidify that we were a part of the movement. That was in 2010.

She also did the first nationwide women’s outreach organization in the cannabis space and was a founding advisor for Women Grow; which a lot of women entrepreneurs are very familiar with Women Grow. She is a member of Students for Sensible Drug Policy Advisory Counsel and she sits on the Marijuana Majority Advisory Board and is a member of the Council of Responsible Cannabis Policy’s National Packaging and Labeling Standards Committee. As a consumer, we get our medicine and we buy it, but there’s a lot of behind the scenes that go into actualizing how the processes go down, and Sabrina’s been a huge integral part of, not only the advocacy side of it, but the industry building side of it. I’m excited for you guys to hear our conversation because she’s an overall badass, really dedicated obviously to the movement and a very, very dear friend.

Hi this is Bianca Green. I’m here at the Emerald Cup, live with Sabrina who is the Director of Government Affairs for Berkeley Patient’s Group. Welcome, Sabrina.

Sabrina Fendrick: Thank you for having me.

Bianca Green: I love you, first of all. That is very true.

Sabrina Fendrick: I love you too.

Bianca Green: Thank you. You have been a female advocate in this crazy movement for a lot of years. I would really love to give our audience some of your background so that they know kind of what a badass I’m sitting talking to right now. Why don’t you tell us how you got into drug policy reform.

Sabrina Fendrick: Well, initially I had an interaction with law enforcement in college in Virginia and that’s sort of what really turned me on to understanding why is this illegal in the first place. I started researching and the more  I researched, the angrier I got. I was just like, this is the most fucked up shit ever. I don’t know if we’re allowed to curse.

Bianca Green: Yes, you are. Yes, especially if you’re an advocate-

Sabrina Fendrick: Okay.

Bianca Green: -in drug policy reform.

Sabrina Fendrick: Okay, good, because I curse a lot.

Bianca Green: It’s almost like you need to curse, right?

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah.

Bianca Green: In the Culture High I’m in four scenes and I say fuck in three, okay?

Sabrina Fendrick: Okay. Yeah. Good.

Bianca Green: Sometimes it gets the point the across.

Sabrina Fendrick: It’s for emphasis.

Bianca Green: Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah. I changed my senior thesis in college my senior year from this foreign affairs analysis to the history of marijuana prohibition and the evolution of government-sponsored reefer madness propaganda. From the beginning of it being illegal up until modern day and how they, before it was sort of like marijuana makes you crazy and rape women and all this insane shit, then it goes to-

Bianca Green: Literally insane shit.

Sabrina Fendrick: Literally insane shit and marijuana just makes you lazy and lethargic, and oh it’s a gateway drug and just how they keep changing it with what the public will buy. I was just lucky enough to be from DC, so I moved home after college and MPP is actually the first place I worked.

Bianca Green: Really? I didn’t hear about that?

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah. I was a temp at MPP.

Bianca Green: Okay.

Sabrina Fendrick: I stuffed envelopes.

Bianca Green: Awesome.

Sabrina Fendrick: I was 22-23-years-old.

Bianca Green: For some people who don’t know, MPP is the Marijuana Policy Project, which is basically … Is it a project of Drug Policy Alliance?

Sabrina Fendrick: No.

Bianca Green: It’s an affiliate?

Sabrina Fendrick: No. They just work together.

Bianca Green: Okay.

Sabrina Fendrick: No, it’s independent.

Bianca Green: Okay.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah. That was in 2008 in the beginning, early spring of 2008. I saw that NORML, I actually randomly found it on Craigslist, that NORML was hiring. I applied for a job at NORML. The position I ended up getting wasn’t one they were hiring for.

Bianca Green: Really?

Sabrina Fendrick: They just created a new position for me-

Bianca Green: That’s awesome.

Sabrina Fendrick: -which was Assistant to the Executive Director, Allen St. Pierre.

Bianca Green: Wow.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah. That’s how I started. 22, I think 23. It was right after my 23rd birthday.

Bianca Green: Wow. I forget you’re so young. Not because you don’t look it, but I just yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: That was a long … It was almost 10 years ago now.

Bianca Green: Yeah, yeah. Wow.

Sabrina Fendrick: It was a really long time. Bush was still President.

Bianca Green: Wow.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: That’s how long … It was the primaries-

Bianca Green: Okay. There’s some context. Okay.

Sabrina Fendrick: -but it was Bush was still President. You weren’t talking about legalizing pot then. Nobody was having that conversation. It was just stop arresting people.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: Nobody could have imagined back then that this is where we would be now-

Bianca Green: Sure.

Sabrina Fendrick: -and you would have this many states with legalized marijuana for adult use. It’s incredible how fast it happened.

Bianca Green: Yeah. What do you think played into that?

Sabrina Fendrick: I think it was a variety of things. I think the internet actually had a lot to do with it. I think people on social media, actually Facebook and all those sort of online organizing tools, created a place for all these people that were like-minded in this issue, were able to sort of come together on finding each other in these networks, in these forums and communicate and spread information. You were actually for the first time able to really challenge the traditional media, because all they put out there was no real legitimate articles. It was just sort of jokey, stonery. It was just something you would laugh at.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: Oh, these stone- Obama, when he first came into office started this sort of we the people-

Bianca Green: Campaign?

Sabrina Fendrick: It was a campaign where it was on their website and you would send in your questions. You could ask him anything and then people would vote the questions up. The top questions he would answer them in a public forum. He did it on YouTube. He did one with CNN, he did a variety of them. Pretty much every single time, the top question was, will you legalize marijuana?

Bianca Green: Yeah. I remember that.

Sabrina Fendrick: This is the very beginning. This was right when I started the NORML Facebook page. It was something I pushed really, really hard and was like share with everybody. This is the only way we can actually get him to say something about it. One or two times they actually took it out. They said it was inappropriate. It was an inappropriate question. Now, when you have Obama saying that marijuana is becoming as legitimate it should be treated like alcohol, just to see how far we’ve come from that.

Bianca Green: Yeah. In such a short amount of time too.

Sabrina Fendrick: In such a short amount of time.

Bianca Green: It’s one of the fastest social justice reform revolutions that has ever really happened.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah. Well, at least in its what I think is coming to fruition, I hope, but it’s actually been going on for 50 years.

Bianca Green: Sure, yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: Now it’s just speeding up like light speed. It was very slow and incremental with its hiccups and challenges throughout the years. Who knows what’s going to happen now with Trump and Sessions and all of that? That’s just the new … Activists have never had it easy and so it’s just more of making sure that we find the stability and security and legitimization to keep on keeping on.

Bianca Green: When people get too celebratory, I’m like, I appreciate your enthusiasm and I’m all about celebrating, but I’ve seen people believe that cannabis legalization has been imminent in the past. My uncle and some of the partnerships that he had, people really believed that some of the times were changing. Tell me about, in the sixties, I don’t know if this is a rumor or if this is a reality, but somebody recently told me that in the sixties, marijuana was legalized for like three years and … Yeah, yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: Federally?

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: I’ve never heard that.

Bianca Green: Okay. We need to look into that.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah.

Bianca Green: It was a very credited source-

Sabrina Fendrick: Interesting.

Bianca Green: -and I think that I need to find out what that information is. Anyway, and then-

Sabrina Fendrick: In the sixties?

Bianca Green: Yeah. They went back and put it back into prohibition.

Sabrina Fendrick: I don’t think so.

Bianca Green: Okay.

Sabrina Fendrick: I’m not sure, but I feel like I would know that.

Bianca Green: Yeah, you would. That’s why I asked too. You never know. I’ll definitely see if I can’t find-

Sabrina Fendrick: The Nixon Commission was in the early seventies.

Bianca Green: Yeah, but that was after. The early sixties was-

Sabrina Fendrick: The early sixties … Yeah.

Bianca Green: -just kind of a different time. Anyway, I think that I’ve just seen so many opportunities where people thought it was a shoe-in. Just the same way people thought that Hillary was a shoe-in and didn’t even bother voting. There’s all different things that people don’t take responsibility for. From my perspective, what I do with Spark the Conversation, is make consumers advocates. What do you think that people can do to get more involved from a consumer advocacy perspective being that you handle government affairs? What can people actually do to become more active in advocating for their freedom to consume the plant and have access to it? Those are really big deals.

Sabrina Fendrick: They are. They are and I definitely have got that question a lot. I think there’s different layers to it. It depends on so many factors. Your time ability, how far you’re willing to put yourself out there, how publicly you’re willing to put yourself out there, but even down to the basic person who doesn’t have the capacity to join a local organization or go to protests or write letters to the editor. The most important thing and the easiest thing is to just talk to your friends and family.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: Honestly, that is-

Bianca Green: That’s what I was thinking.

Sabrina Fendrick: -really what has, I think, been a huge part of what’s changed the public’s perspective on marijuana legalization, because that was a message that we pushed online.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: Talk to your friends and talk to you family.

Bianca Green: Change the stigma.

Sabrina Fendrick: Everybody loves somebody who smokes marijuana.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: That person has a responsibility to educate those people around them about how important it is that this is a social justice, a criminal justice issue and they really need to understand the history and the implications of current policy and the potential for change.

Bianca Green: The social media revolution really helped change the stigma of cannabis-

Sabrina Fendrick: Absolutely.

Bianca Green: -and the people who use it. I know when I was running The High Times Instagram and their social media, a lot of people were still leery about putting their faces on it. I started to encourage patients, because they’re consumers, right?

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah.

Bianca Green: To just get out there and be-

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah, get out there.

Bianca Green: -a part of it.

Sabrina Fendrick: That’s the next layer.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: Absolutely.

Bianca Green: It’s super important. That’s the thing that I say with Spark the Conversation all the time. It is not illegal to have a conversation so-

Sabrina Fendrick: Exactly.

Bianca Green: -start there. Start there.

Sabrina Fendrick: First amendment exists for a reason.

Bianca Green: Start there.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah.

Bianca Green: Everyone has to have a starting point.

Sabrina Fendrick: Have a conversation.

Bianca Green: What’s it like? What does your job entail at Berkeley Patient’s Group? What does it mean to even be Director of Government Affairs? It’s a niche industry, I guess, right? You’re dealing with things that if you worked for Nike, this position might not necessarily exist, right?

Sabrina Fendrick: Well, it’s sort of … I’m sure Nike actually has one, because any corporation or industry that wants to be able to sort of take part in the shaping of policy that impacts their-

Bianca Green: Business.

Sabrina Fendrick: -business is going to have somebody there just sort of keeping an eye on what’s going on-

Bianca Green: Sure.

Sabrina Fendrick: -sort of trying to educate the lawmakers who deal with a gazillion issues. Marijuana’s not their main thing and they don’t know anything about how to run a business or what the marijuana industry is facing and their challenges. They honestly need people who can articulate that perspective to them so that when they start to craft these laws and these regulations, on every level: local, state and Federal. Not so much … I mean Federal is taking longer, but you just need to be able to show them what sort of the impact and the implications of these regulations will have on the businesses as they currently exist and as they continue to grow or as they will exist under the new regulations.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: It’s a lot of educating. It’s a lot of educating and a lot of just sort of-

Bianca Green: You educate lawmakers?

Sabrina Fendrick: Educate lawmakers.

Bianca Green: Yeah. You lobby for permanence and different types of things like that.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yes. Then that’s the second part is it’s an interesting time. I think sort of the nature of what I do is not exactly the nature of what a Nike government affairs person would do because-

Bianca Green: Sure. Shoes aren’t illegal.

Sabrina Fendrick: Right. Exactly. I was going to say the policy and the business are very intertwined and you have to just be really on top of sort of what the local regulations are if you even want to get a permit and be a part of that whole process-

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: – to even put in a permit application. Yeah, they sort of go hand-in-hand. Just keeping an eye out on what’s going on and what jurisdictions and municipalities are doing. Where would it be a good place to look into and where wouldn’t and what’s in the pipeline?

Bianca Green: What do you think some of the greatest things that are going into reform right now are? Is it education? Is it regulation and compliance? Permitting? What do you think is the tipping point as-is? I mean, we see 64 and we see this whole new field of opportunity, but how do you think that that’s the most … What do you think is next basically for a government relation opportunity to help influence and create and shape new laws under 64 and MCRSA? Merging your business into a model that has recreational and medicinal opportunities? You guys are a dispensary so you’re a retail operation, but what are we looking at?

Sabrina Fendrick: That part, it basically depends on the local jurisdiction.

Bianca Green: Okay.

Sabrina Fendrick: That’s where the local government affairing occurs. I go to these Berkeley Medical Cannabis Commission meetings every month and they’re a sort of appointed group of individuals who create proposals, suggested ordinances and model language for the city council to consider on different aspects of the industry and on the commercial operations. Keeping on track of that and seeing sort of where they are kind of determines where everything is. Sometimes the city council will just pop a random thing or two in that they want to do and sometimes you know and sometimes you don’t, but that’s local politics. Local politics versus state politics versus federal politics-

Bianca Green: They are so different.

Sabrina Fendrick: -is so different. It’s so different. In DC, I was very much on the sort of federal-state.

Bianca Green: Sure.

Sabrina Fendrick: I wasn’t local. I was not involved in … In DC and surrounding areas, the local politicking only is important in places what are called home rule states, versus Dillon rule states. Home rule states, the localities can basically create their own rules and laws, where you’ll have one city sort of deprioritizing or decriminalizing marijuana or not arresting, where another won’t be and they can just have all their ballot initiatives and all kinds of stuff like that. In Virginia and a lot of other places, they’re mostly western states that have that option, but not all. There’s Massachusetts has it, Florida has it. In Dillon rule states the localities have to go with what the state law says. There’s not local control. I tried in, of course, the county I lived in in Virginia. I was like I’m going to try to decriminalize it over here.

Bianca Green: Of course you did.

Sabrina Fendrick: Let’s start with Arlington.

Bianca Green: You’re the bad ass that way. I love that. Arlington, you just decided to take on legalization.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah. I was like why not? It’ll be a pet project.

Bianca Green: I love that. In Arlington, Virginia.

Sabrina Fendrick: I met with the head of the County Board, who I went to high school with his kids so we kind of knew each other. Really sat down and talked to him and he said, “No, Dillon rule was like every other word.” Which is actually not entirely true. I started really researching it and realized that there were places. Right now Charlottesville tried to do it a couple years ago and it was weird, but now it sounds like Newport News, Norfolk and Virginia Beach area have done it.

Bianca Green: Wow.

Sabrina Fendrick: It really doesn’t actually have to be a law, but it can just be sort of like a policy based on the police chief or the city attorney can just say this is your lowest priority, we’re not going to prosecute these cases. That’s the only legal explicit way, but then you have when you’re determining how to prioritize enforcement-

Bianca Green: Sure.

Sabrina Fendrick: -of society-

Bianca Green: Yeah. Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: -that falls to the bottom and you put that where earlier it didn’t.

Bianca Green: It’s crazy because I don’t think most of the consumers know what goes on to get product to them, right?

Sabrina Fendrick: Seriously. I do too. I always tell people marijuana didn’t legalize itself.

Bianca Green: Me too. You and I have so many parallels. That’s one of the reasons why I love you, not that I love myself, but it’s good to find people who have like-minded visions because not everyone thinks that way. People are like, “Weed is legal.” I’m like, “But, you know … ”

Sabrina Fendrick: It’s legal on the backs of so many people who have put in so much blood, sweat and tears and risked so much.

Bianca Green: So much. What do you think the regular, everyday consumer can do, really, to be more advocates? I know you mentioned online opportunities to share information, which I always encourage and that’s one of the things that why we created Spark the Conversation is to do just that-

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah.

Bianca Green: -have people get online and share information with their family and friends. I always say it’s not illegal to have a conversation. How else can people be active either locally, statewide or federally? Because we need more support. I would say one thing off the top and I try to always encourage people is to donate-

Sabrina Fendrick: Absolutely.

Bianca Green: -to organizations that are leading the change, but is there anything else that you would add other than donating-

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah.

Bianca Green: -and getting on Facebook?

Sabrina Fendrick: Right.

Bianca Green: What are actual actions that people could do?

Sabrina Fendrick: I understand, donating especially for a majority of the public, it’s hard. People are on budgets and the thing I identify with this cause versus maybe other more corporatized causes is that we may not have a lot of financial resources, but there is a lot of human resources. It’s the human resources that are sometimes worth more than the financial resources. If the people can’t do that, can’t donate the money, then they can contact their local government office, their local county commissioner or their state representative on a local level or on a federal level and meet with them and really talk to them.

Bianca Green: Why it’s important. What do they talk to them about though? When they get there or they make the contact-

Sabrina Fendrick: Well, what are they passionate about? Everyone has as different reason for the most part as to why they think it should be illegal, or legal, excuse me.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: Well, that too. Absolutely. That too. I think the way you talk to them is what you feel most passionately about because that comes across-

Bianca Green: The most authentic.

Sabrina Fendrick: -the most authentic way.

Bianca Green: Yeah, it’s so true.

Sabrina Fendrick: If it’s for medicine and you just want access to medicine, then that’s your angle. If you or someone you love got caught up in the criminal justice system, then that’s your angle.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: There’s so many reasons marijuana should be legal and so many reasons it’s current illegal status fucks up society-

Bianca Green: True.

Sabrina Fendrick: -there’s a whole menu of things that you can go from. If you had to pick, go with the one that you’re most passionate about and get educated on it.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: Especially also follow what’s going on in your local government in terms of marijuana, because there might be something in the pipeline. If they are having hearings and they all have to have public hearings when these laws are being created. Well, I don’t do sort of the national stuff anymore, but if there are places that are looking to make it stricter or change certain policies that are working or more progressive, then know when those public hearings are, show up to them and speak at them. Write letters to them, do all of that. You just have to get a huge turnout to all of these things so that they know that there’s people that are watching. Their constituents are there, they’re paying attention, they know what they’re doing and you don’t always win, but you certainly make a statement and the lawmakers and elected officials have no choice but to recognize you’re there. Your existence and the fact that you could potentially affect their position.

Bianca Green: Yeah. It is important that we fight for our civil liberties.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah.

Bianca Green: I really enjoy this narrative that we’re talking about because I rarely hear people talking about this anymore.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah.

Bianca Green: Drug policy reform has kind of been slid under the rug with legalization and the new opportunities coming about. The drug war is still far from over and a lot of people don’t understand the small different nuances of difficulties that businesses go through. What’s next for Berkeley Patient’s Group and why Berkeley Patient’s Group? What is it about that particular retail outlet that drew you in? What are you guys’ plans for 2017?

Sabrina Fendrick: That’s a lot of questions. I would say when I was coming to the point where I was … Well, how do I say this? I was deciding what direction to go in my life and I was living in Colorado and becoming very familiar with the industry and somewhat disillusioned with the industry. I really was not a huge fan of how I saw things unfolding and decided that I really needed … If I was going to be somewhere and stay in the industry, it had to be somewhere that I knew was actually passionate about drug reform, the cause and really had deep roots in that whole movement. That was the only way I would stay. I was very familiar with Berkeley Patient’s Group because they have been sponsors of NORML conferences forever.

Bianca Green: Yeah, yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: They’ve single handedly started non-profit groups, kept them afloat. Probably one of the groups that’s had the biggest impact on sustaining these organizations. That ethos that I knew existed with that organization was something that I could believe in and work for. That’s why I was interested. Really, it was going to be Berkeley Patient’s Group or I was going to find another cause.

Bianca Green: Yeah. Really?

Sabrina Fendrick: I do think that it was an interesting transition going from the movement, activist word to the industry world. I don’t think this is as like industry as others are, just because they have those deep, deep roots in the movement.

Bianca Green: Yeah.

Sabrina Fendrick: They come from the movement so that’s part of the philosophy. Just really coming to the understanding that the whole evolution and creation of these regulations and these new policies of how you’re actually going to contain and control a regulated industry is literally what the movement has been fighting for, it’s just the other half of it. You have to make sure that the regulations work so that we can prove that marijuana legalization is actually good public policy. I think it is almost equally important to make sure we do it right, because we’ve been fighting to do it. Now we have to make sure we do it right. That’s how I feel like I’m contributing to the movement through what I do in that capacity in ensuring that the industry, the movement and the space is sustainable and will be able to withstand the scrutiny that may or may not come. Being able to just show that cannabis businesses can have a positive impact on society and the sky is not going to fall.

Bianca Green: The sky is not going to fall. Sabrina, the industry and the community is lucky to have you. You are a pioneer and all of your contributions have been really, really, really great to seeing this whole concept that we can be conscious cannabis consumers, we can be articulate and have the opportunity to, not only advocate, but put that advocacy into the business models of businesses that either already exist or are coming the industry. That’s really important and you do it very well and very gracefully.

Sabrina Fendrick: Thank you.

Bianca Green: I’m not only glad to know you, I’m glad that you came on the podcast today. Let our audience kind of know where they might be able to find you, information about Berkeley Patient’s Group.

Sabrina Fendrick: Well, thank you very much. It’s an honor to be on this show and thank you for what you’re doing, because I think it’s very important too.

Bianca Green: Thanks.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah. Well, okay so you can find me online.

Bianca Green: Okay.

Sabrina Fendrick: Social media. I’m on Facebook. Sabrina Fendrick. I don’t know what my actual-

Bianca Green: Instagram handler is?

Sabrina Fendrick: Well my Instagram handler is Sabrina but it’s not … Let’s just be honest, I’m not really on there all that much. You’re more than welcome to follow me.

Bianca Green: But Berkeley Patient’s-

Sabrina Fendrick: I’ll try to do better.

Bianca Green: Okay.

Sabrina Fendrick: Berkeley Patient’s Group is

Bianca Green: Great.

Sabrina Fendrick: All the hashtags and codes are mybpg.

Bianca Green: Awesome. Thank you Sabrina for joining us at the Emerald Cup live, literally. We are in this awesome space.

Sabrina Fendrick: The awards are happening right now.

Bianca Green: The awards are happening right and it’s exciting.

Sabrina Fendrick: Yeah.

Bianca Green: Sparking the Conversation for our awesome media partners Thank you, again, Sabrina from Berkeley Patient’s Group.

Sabrina Fendrick: Thank you so much for having me.

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